Cases: Where in the WORLD are people finding cases deep enough for Cadet’s deepest modules?
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#1 — Fallinggirl · 2021-02-19
I have some 13 Eurorack cases and only three of them will accommodate the full Cadet line of modules. Of course my Doepfer Monster Cases and Pittsburgh Modular cases will accommodate them but THEY’RE ENORMOUS and not cases I intend to dedicate to video synthesis. I really wanted to house my video modules in two Mantis cases with the new TipTop side bracket connecting them. But the Cadet Ramp that I just got is way too deep for any part of the Mantis case. I considered using a TipTop Happy Ending but they look like a worksite under construction.
SO, what case are you guys using for Cadet modules? And please don’t say LZX cases because they no longer make them and they’re over $1k for 204hp.
Again, sorry for all of the questions but I’m literally obsessed with my video synthesis now. I live and breath this stuff and it’s driving everyone in my life away from me
. If they don’t want to talk video synthesis or Eurorack I can’t concentrate on a word they’re saying.
#2 — Marizu · 2021-02-19
Take a look at a Doepfer P6/LC6. They have a decent PSU and can power two rows of video modular (I wouldn’t want to stretch to three rows, though).
They might be bigger than what you want to carry, though.
Otherwise, look what is available in the pre-built world. A Passage doesn’t cost that much more than three Cadet Processors and it is a lot shallower.
#3 — Fallinggirl · 2021-02-19
Thanks so much and I’ll take a look. I have a Doepfer Monster case and it’s so underpowered but worst case scenario I can add another power bus or just a Zeus with a flying bus board.
#4 — Marizu · 2021-02-19
Weirdly, someone else asked me about the Doepfer Monster cases just before.
The A-100 PMS12 and the A-100 PMB look to have a decent amount of power for video, but the A-100 PMS9 looks underpowered.
One of those PSU2/PSU3’s can power two 84hp rows of video modular.
#5 — 337is · 2021-02-19
Cadets and Castles are not comfortable in most spots in Vessels. @Marizu’s Doepfer suggestion is a great one in my experience. Smallish, well-built, clean LZX-approved PSUs, and DEPTH 4 DAYZ!
#6 — Fallinggirl · 2021-02-19
Thanks so much for the responses
. Doepfer it is!
#7 — vhsdestroyer · 2021-02-19
Surprisingly I’ve got 3 castle modules mounted in a case with about 7 cm total depth from rails to the bottom of the case and have had no issues. I just have to play around with the spacing a bit to avoid the euro headers on the bus board and it fits perfectly for me. Case I’m using is a mdlr travel case. I just ordered an 85w power board for them to give more overhead clearance to my modules and I’m gonna be selling the old board which worked super well for me.
#8 — Rik_bS · 2021-02-20
Arturia Rackbrute 6U is deep enough, just avoid the power bus and be wary of power and sync cable tangle
#9 — Fox · 2021-02-20
Heres a fix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4PRAVJE4Cw
#10 — Fallinggirl · 2021-02-21
Nice! I’m going to try this. Thanks!
#11 — Rik_bS · 2021-02-24
Just had a couple of modules arrive, for my video case being built in 2x Rackbrute 6U…
sure, the Rackbrute can fit the Cadets, but I wasn’t expecting this!
it’s an Elby ChaQuo, 85mm deep
following the above advice, I jumped straight on to ebay and bought 10x M3 Standoff 15mm. It’ll be ugly, but it’ll work. Will share pics when it’s fitted.
#12 — monads · 2021-02-25
Perhaps an ADDAC902 AXI (ALI) with upgraded power bus boards?! You’ll just have to grab a desk rack stand for.
#13 — Agawell · 2021-02-25
DIY - you can make them any depth you like!
#14 — Kent · 2021-04-07
https://reverb.com/item/39602172-monorocket-m9m-high-current-high-power-case-2015-blackPlease email me for more pictures. The Mission 9M is specifically designed for Metasonix modules, and particularly the new R-55 oscillator module which, on its own, draws enough current to shut down any other eurorack power supply on the planet. This...
Link: Monorocket M9M High Current / High Power case 2015? Black | Re: Music Synths...
One could always buy my Monorocket High Current case and never worry about space or power again!
#15 — 337is · 2021-04-07
Can vouch for @Kent as a stand up individual and that case as being beastly good.
#16 — Kent · 2021-04-07
Thanks for the kind words, good sir!
#17 — jnoble · 2021-04-08
Monorocket’s switchmode power supplies are unlikely to be great with LZX modules, be careful.
#18 — Kent · 2021-04-10
I’ve never heard of a case of this. However, I’m new to the video synth game. Do you have links to this issue? I’d hate to sell something to somebody and have them come away less than pleased.
#19 — jnoble · 2021-04-10
Power supplies that are really good for music modulars, like the excellent Intellijel powered bus boards, have too much high frequency hash on the rails–which shows up as visible fuzz/lines/bands in video synths’ outputs.
General purpose switchmode supplies like the ones in the Monorocket cases should be approached very carefully by video synth users: test first, if possible.
Here’s a good primer:
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#20 — Kent · 2021-04-10
Now I’m even more flummoxed. There is no mention of Monorocket in that thread (perhaps the “search within this thread function” is inadequate) and many of the recommended supplies are switching supplies.
Perhaps the words of caution were meant in a general manner. An over-taxed power supply of any sort can induce problems. However, a supply with individual +/-12VDC rails that can supply 8.5 amps, along with a +5VDC rail with 8A is not likely to be taxed by whatever one mounts in the case.
#21 — jnoble · 2021-04-10
The part you’re missing about those three “switching” supplies is that all of them are hybrid designs: the Doepfer PSU-3, Malekko Power, and Zeus Studio Bus all have bulk DC-DC switchmode converters followed by linear regulators.
Even really great switchmode designs for music modulars like Intellijel supplies produce too much high frequency hash for video work (personal experience). You’re not in Kansas anymore.
The exceptions, of course, are LZX modules that have their own regulation onboard–but those can take bulk +12V from a barrel connector too.
#22 — 337is · 2021-04-10
But Kansas was fully Monorocket for years in LZX-land at the onset from about 2011-15. The earliest Visionary systems run by LZX were in that beautiful yellow Monorocket case. My understanding from Steve at Livewire (nee Monorocket) is that several of their cases power supplies were designed and implemented with Video needs particularly considered. Not saying all Monorockets fall into this category, and the cases they made for Pittsburgh Modular performed particularly poorly for video in my personal experience…but I know a lot of folks whose output was, and still is, via Monorocket offerings for the video world.
TLDR: not all Monorocket power supplies are equal.
Additional reading/sources:
Another case inquiry. I seem to remember that a lot of early LZX systems were housed in Monorocket cases. Is it safe to say their power supplies were generally suitable for video purposes. I do believe they were linear.> I see some mention of the monorocket cases, and some power is good and some is not, but dont see specific models of power. > I found a monorocket case with 2 Heng Fu HF60W-SL-12’s in it and was wondering if those would be good for a 12u system?>
#23 — jnoble · 2021-04-10
Early Monorockets had linear supplies, yes, like this one:
But Kent is talking about a switchmode version, which I would approach with caution for video use.
#24 — joem · 2021-04-11
I can’t wait for the next generation of LZX modules where super-clean power from the case won’t be as big of a concern (and hopefully won’t be a concern at all)!
#25 — Jefro · 2021-04-21
I took a 12U portable mixer rack, threw eurorails on it, and tossed two Doepfer PSU3s in. There is room for days behind even the deepest modules. It was an incredibly easy build.
#26 — bentoncbainbridge · 2021-04-23
I have a Monorocket M9M for trade in the Modules trades thread
#27 — Rik_bS · 2021-04-23
I like really this idea, just throwing 84HP rails in to a rack case, but the PSU3 does involve DIY mains wiring
#28 — Jefro · 2021-04-23
It does indeed, but it’s actually pretty easy to do. It’s all very well documented. So as long as you follow the instructions, and makes sure there’s no exposed wiring, it’s pretty foolproof.