[ORDER] VEIL - Priority Layering Compositor

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#1 — Fox · 2021-06-10

Description:

VEIL is a three layer subtractive compositor allowing users to stack luma signals and create the effect of perceived depth. The opacity of top layers may be adjusted to obstruct or reveal lower layers. Each knob at the CW position will result in its respective layer appearing to sit on top of the lower layers without “white-blowout” while CCW will approach the function of a typical additive mixer.

VEIL is best used with gradients and can be used in series or parallel with other VEIL modules for a multitude of expandable capabilities. Using two or more VEIL modules in series increases the number of stackable layers and using three VEIL modules in parallel allows users to stack and control the opacity of multiple full-color RGB video sources.

• ?? mA +12V (TBD)
• ?? mA -12V (TBD)
• 0 mA 5V
• 4HP wide
• 48.26 mm deep
• ModularGrid

Prices:

DIY PCB Set: 28 USD + 4 USD shipping

Built Module: 157 USD w/free domestic shipping

• Please respond or PM me to place an order.
• BOM and Build Guide are located below in the second reply.

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#2 — Fox · 2021-06-10

Until I get my Memory Palace, all video credits go to @rempesm who put together some incredible example patches (below):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90zsqH6i-ag3 Oscillators:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq04cbPEJrg> A couple initial patches. These are all just Prismatic Rays cross patched together (maybe one Navigator and Diver in there) into one RGB path. This is then multed through a YRGB distro into 3 rotated versions (RGB, GBR, BRG) that are patched into the 3 VEIL(s). VEIL is patched into RGB Ch. B of MI for fade to/from black and then into Cadet Encoder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCP00Qh5eZo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZHshta_URQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcbXgfF_qks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JMiBG-rzjY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D9BzoHkj94> Here’s using basically one of the last patches, just layered across L2 and then an eyeball on top for L1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a-sgL8i61s&t=4s> And here’s a simple one with just a FM’d triangle multed across L2 and eyeball on top for L1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unblL9KmMHw> Here’s one using 3 RGB stills across 3x Veils.

Portrait on layer 3, flower on layer 2, fire on layer 1.

This one relies pretty heavily on vertex displacement (one Prismatic Ray with pedestal and frequency inputs modulated by a quadrature LFO) for its overall effect. Maybe not the most immediately obvious demo of the effect but I’m sure you can pick out what’s going on here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQAsu1-dMJ0> 7 inputs across 3 VEIL modules in series:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoKXXPKMgmM> Same patch but I’m putting the final output of Veil > #3> into the R Matrix input of DAISY and then multing the outputs of VEIL > #1> and > #2> into G and B Matrix inputs of Daisy. I actually don’t mess with any of VEIL’s knobs in this one–they’re all CW. It’s just Daisy’s knobs I’m adjusting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9oc9h1Sg3A> Three VEIL in parallel to create full-color stacked images. In this patch, three layers are used, but in different combinations of R&G, R&B and B&G to produce only CYM & White colors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auaV7DwI8bw

#3 — Fox · 2021-06-10

BOM and Build Guide

Click for BOM:QtyValueParts251KR5, R6, R7, R8, R9, R13, R18, R19, R23, R25, R26, R28, R29, R30, R31, R32, R33, R34, R35, R36, R37, R38, R39, R40, R4114100nC1, C3, C4, C5, C7, C8, C9, C10, C11, C12, C13, C14, C16, C177499RR2, R3, R15, R16, R20, R21, R467LM6172IC1, IC2, IC3, IC4, IC5, IC6, IC76100KR1, R4, R14, R17, R24, R2761N5711D3, D4, D5, D6, D7, D844.99KR10A, R11, R12, R22A4PJ302MLAYER1, LAYER2, LAYER3, OUT210u/25vC2, C621N4001D1, D2268R Ferrite BeadFB1, FB22B10K - T18 shaftVR1, VR212x5 (10-Pin) male headerJ91Pcb set-110-16 Pin Power Ribbon-2Davies Knobs T18 (transparent recommended)- Click for Build Guide:Step 0.

Using a PCB vice will improve your DIY experience immensely.

Step 1.

4.99K ohm resistors.

Step 2.

499 Ohm (499R) resistors.

Step 3.

100K resistors.

Step 4.

1K resistors. There are 25 of these, so this is the most tedious step.

Step 5.

1N5711 diodes. Diodes are polarized, so the orientation is important. Take special note of the black stripe on each diode and line it up with the silkscreen’s stripe for all 6 of these.

Step 6.

Protection diodes and Ferrite Beads. As with the step above, diodes are polarized.

Step 7.

100nF Ceramic Capacitors. There are 14 caps positioned next to the supply pins of each IC.

Step 8.

10uF electrolytic capacitors and power connector. Unlike the 100nF caps, these ones are polarized. Take note of the stipe on both caps illustrating the negative lead.

Also important is the “key” or “notch” on your power connector. This points outward from the board as pictured below.

Part 9.

Jacks and pots. Place each of these components into the board and install the faceplate. Gently finger-tighten each nut to the jacks and pots before soldering. This ensures that each one is lined up with the faceplate before they are fixed in place.

Gently flip the board over and solder them in place.

Step 10.

LM6172’s. I prefer to solder my IC’s last as they expensive and may be more sensitive to heat than passive components.

Now that the soldering is finished, I choose to remove the faceplate and clean any excess solder flux away with plenty isopropyl alcohol and a toothbrush. It is also a good time to visually inspect your solder joints.

Afterward, you may finally reinstall the faceplate, fully tighten the nuts in place and install your knobs.

Enjoy!

#4 — otoskope · 2021-06-10

Very interesting. So this is sort of a monochrome Color Chords? It seems to me that the kind of mixing is related.

#5 — reverselandfill · 2021-06-10

Looks very interesting!

2 pcb sets for me please!

#6 — phosphenes · 2021-06-10

Very cool! Does anyone from the U.K. want to go for some combined shipping?

#7 — DaydreamDevices · 2021-06-10

I’ll take a built module please

#8 — joem · 2021-06-10

I’m very interested but I’d need to see some video demos before I can decide if I want to commit 7 LM6172’s to this or not.

#9 — Robbertunist · 2021-06-10

@Marizu, @Agawell, @allthesixes666

#10 — Robbertunist · 2021-06-10

I’ll happily take a couple. @Vanta, @meudiademorte, @destroythings & anyone else in Germany want to combine shipping?

#11 — wednesdayayay · 2021-06-10

happy to take two built modules!

#13 — Fox · 2021-06-10

joem wrote:

I’m very interested but I’d need to see some video demos before I can decide if I want to commit 7 LM6172’s to this or not.

I’ve added several videos to the second post.

Now I am working on the build guide.

#14 — IoDionysus · 2021-06-10

If I could grab 2 pcb sets, that would be amazing! Thanks yo, I loved the shutter so much, had to jump on these asap!

#15 — Marizu · 2021-06-10

I’d like 2 PCB and panel sets, please!

#16 — heythony · 2021-06-10

I’ll take a built Module!

#17 — allthesixes666 · 2021-06-10

ooh if there’s one or two pcb/panel sets left please count me in

happy to join/combine shipping for UK people

#18 — RoseColouredGlasses · 2021-06-10

I’ll take a built one if any are left, please and thank you!

#19 — analogbrainsurgeon · 2021-06-10

I’d like a built module as well please

#20 — Lettuce · 2021-06-10

I’ll take a pcb set if still available!

#21 — brendanleespengler · 2021-06-10

Also down for a built module, love this project & design!

#22 — Fox · 2021-06-10

Update:

1x built module remains and the first 10x PCB/Panel sets are claimed.

Another batch of 50 PCB/Panels are currently in production and I will continue to take orders for more built modules.

#23 — jnoble · 2021-06-10

2 PCB sets please, much excite

#24 — vhsdestroyer · 2021-06-10

I would love to snag a pcb set!

#25 — TrashTeam · 2021-06-10

Put me down for a built module!

#26 — meudiademorte · 2021-06-10

Thanks but already ordered the prototyp last month! Still in the mail

#27 — joem · 2021-06-10

Thanks! I’m sold. Put me down for one pcb+panel set, please!

(Looking forward to your Daisy matrix mixer, too!)

#28 — mwmw · 2021-06-10

I would like a PCB set too please!

I hope it’s okay asking in this thread but could you put me down for the next run of shutter PCB sets too please?

Am in UK for others with combined shipping

Thanks!

#29 — Fox · 2021-06-10

Excellent! Yes, Shutter is currently in the mail on it’s way to me and more Veil are in production.

I’ll see what we can do about a group UK shipment.

#30 — Rik_bS · 2021-06-10

You need to thonk about your options

#31 — rempesm · 2021-06-10

We wouldn’t want any modular addicts hoping for raw voltage to miss out now, would we?

#32 — everyoneismyfriend · 2021-06-11

I’ll take a pair of pcb/panel sets

#33 — crixmadine · 2021-06-11

I’ll take one built module please.

#34 — allthesixes666 · 2021-06-11

am happy to coordinate UK buy

@mwmw@Marizu@Agawell @ anyone else…

#36 — phosphenes · 2021-06-11

That would be amazing if you could @allthesixes666 ! Put me down for one pcb set please

#37 — Marizu · 2021-06-11

Hey, @allthesixes666 , I’m not going to be in this group purchase. I’ve already sent my payment over.

Catch you soon!

#38 — Agawell · 2021-06-11

currently not in UK - will be soon though

thanks for offering, but not interested at this time - have color chords

#39 — allthesixes666 · 2021-06-11

howdy! no problemo

#40 — Vdot · 2021-06-11

Hi Fox, I would like to order two PCB sets.

#41 — Driftwood · 2021-06-11

I’m interested in a built module.

#42 — mattzog · 2021-06-11

I’d like to get in for 3 of these PCB and panel sets.

Thanks Fox!

#43 — Fox · 2021-06-11

UPDATE:

I believe I have been in contact with everyone interested. For those waiting on the next batch, boards are expected to finish production June 17th and will hopefully be delivered on the 23rd (give or take).

Feel free to continue messaging me if you wish to have your name added to the lists for either a PCB/panel or built module. Also note that my previous modules are/will be available at the time of the new batch’s arrival.

#44 — rempesm · 2021-06-12

@otoskope Assuming CW position on the knobs, it can perform the same type of subtractive mixing where the brightness of the upper layers determines how much voltage is subtracted from the lower layers.

If you have three bright layers you want to mix together, with an additive mixer this can often result in areas where the brightness overlaps and blows out to white which means you lose detail. VEIL is close to this when the pots are all CCW. Several of the patches above start off CCW and progress to fully CW.

It might help to notice that for the monochrome patches, where the top layers are close to black, the lower layers shine through. When the top layers are bright, you won’t see any part of the lower layers as their brightness has been subtracted by a proportional amount of the higher layers and the pot position. Here’s another one where the top layer (Diver) is attenuated to dark grey, then Monica Vitti portrait, then perlin noise–the last two at their usual brightness. The perlin noise is always visible where the other images are mostly black.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DEoMt7yMGs

#45 — analogbrainsurgeon · 2021-06-12

I’m really excited for this one! Hey Fox, would it be possible to make an RBG and Luma version with CV control over the layers? Like several Veils with CV, in one package? I’m really impressed by what I’ve seen and plan to order two more Veils soon… just imagining possibilities over here

#46 — Fox · 2021-06-12

Thanks, maybe at some point. Right now I have quite a few other modules to release before returning to the drawing boards on this one. You are right, though; that VEIL is most impressive in a set of 3!

Preorders for the second batch is already quickly approaching the additional 50 boards I ordered. A 3rd order will have to be placed before the 2nd even arrives!

#47 — Fallinggirl · 2021-06-12

Do you have any built available?

#48 — Fox · 2021-06-12

I will build more once the next PCB batch arrives. Would you like me to put you down for one?

#49 — Dr_Rek · 2021-06-13

This is great, really want one, but I’m wondering about CV control on the opacity knobs. Would be super cool to be able to use LFOs on those controls. Maybe a consideration for a future mk2? Looks like there could be room for cv input jacks below each knob, but attenuators would have to be done on other modules or inline attenuators, or hp would have to increase for more controls.

#50 — rempesm · 2021-06-13

Having direct video rate control of those two pots would be very powerful. Much like some of LZX’s offerings where there are not direct ‘cv inputs’, there are ways you can patch your inputs and outputs to more dynamically interact with VEIL’s core function, assuming CW positions on the knobs.

Put your 3 input sources through VCAs (Bridge, Cadet VI, X, Marble Index, TVFKG, TVVCA, etc.) before patching them into VEIL and modulate with LFOs. Modulating the contrast (gain/attenuation) of all three sources at once will mean that as your LFO opens the VCA, you’ll see more of each of the layers appear out of black (increasing gain towards white) while at the same time the brighter spots of the upper layers will begin to obscure those beneath them.

Mix your 3 input sources directly with one multed LFO (Passage, Color Chords, VBM, Cadet VII, CMix, Matrix Mixer, forthcoming Fox Daisy, etc.). This will let you modulate the brightness (bias or how close to 1V/white each pixel is) of all layers simultaneously. The effect of obscuring lower layers is increased while maintaining the ratio of brightness between each layer. Your upper layers may blow out to white more readily depending on how much you bias them.

Patch all three source inputs through a Gamma corrector, like an Arch (ideally through a video rate fader for log<>lin<>expo fades) or Shapechanger. This lets you adjust whether your mid greys are closer to black or white under voltage control. So if you have a dynamic portrait, gamma correcting it would move its midgrey points without forcing details closest to black or white to be clipped. This makes VEIL dynamically adjust how the layers obscure each other without losing detail as readily as the summed LFO option.

If you decide VEIL is totally your thing, using 6 of them fed by a multed RGB image with 3 video rate faders (Marble Index, BSO Crossfade, TVFKG, etc.) would let you set up two scenes of opacity (pots on each set of 3 VEILs set differently) and then fade between them with a LFO. SHUTTER would do it too but as a hard switching effect.

As more of a thought exercise, using 12 VEILs fed into 3x Brownshoesonly Scanners would let you scan across 4 different scenes of fixed opacity at video rate.

#51 — synlog · 2021-06-20

3 pcb sets for me please!

Shipping costs to Germany?

#52 — dora · 2021-06-20

I’d like one built module. Thanks!

#53 — Fox · 2021-06-20

synlog wrote:

3 pcb sets for me please!

Shipping costs to Germany?

Sure. I will PM you.

dora wrote:

I’d like one built module. Thanks!

PM’ing.

#54 — Fox · 2021-06-24

The second batch of 50 has arrived. I will now begin contacting everyone on my list who has been waiting.

#55 — Jesse · 2021-06-25

I’ll take 3 PCB’s & Panels

#56 — Fox · 2021-06-25

You’re on the list now. I’ll be in contact shortly.

#57 — VanTa · 2021-06-25

I’d like 3x pcb sets as well

#58 — jnoble · 2021-07-02

Got mine today–a whole two days early!

Built and tested both already, and they are great. I actually had all the parts on hand from building a bunch of Cadets and Castles recently–including exactly 14 LM6172s

Love love love the component values on the PCB silkscreen!

Just a couple of minor complaints: the .1uF cap lead spacing is a little wide for my taste and 16 pin power headers seem to be the standard for LZX modules so I would prefer that for these modules also.

Thanks for bringing this to life!!

#59 — wednesdayayay · 2021-07-02

our little fox collection is coming right along!

peep the triple veil in front of the shutter

modules from left to right

quad 2:1 / 1:2 switch, quad mult, polar fringe, 3x) veil, shutter, passage, matrix mixer, mapper, marble index

#60 — motejo · 2021-07-07

If there are still PCB sets left, I’d love to grab 3 of them. Thanks!

#61 — jreinke · 2021-07-07

three pcb sets please!

#62 — Analogmonster · 2021-07-11

I would love a pcb set if there are left, please PM me thanks

#63 — jsonpayload · 2021-09-04

Looking for a pre-built Veil, thanks!

#64 — Fox · 2021-09-04

Gotcha covered. DM’ing now…

#65 — phosphenes · 2022-03-03

Finally got op amps in mine! Had a quick play last night and very excited for the new patching options. Psyched to start working on some RGB mixing!

#66 — Entropist · 2022-04-07

Having only built a couple simple modules so far, a passive mult and digital oscilator, would this module be suitable for a novice builder? The build guide seems similar to what I’ve done so far. Been wanting to put my iron to work again and this module looks pretty sweet!

#67 — rempesm · 2022-04-07

Just take extra care around not overheating the ICs by giving plenty of time between soldering each pin and you’ll be fine! There’s no calibration and the part values are on the board.

#68 — Fox · 2022-04-07

This one isn’t any harder to build than most single-board modules. It does have an above-average number of IC’s though. If you’re careful about excessive heat as Rempes mentioned and are thorough when searching for shorts, then you should be fine.

#69 — Entropist · 2022-04-08

Good to hear, thanks for the tips!

#70 — FranzKappa · 2024-04-04

God i love this module! Need to order two more of them then i have a trio…Best option for those (like me) who missed the window to get their hands on a marble index.

BUUUUUMP.

#71 — Fox · 2024-04-05

Thank you for the kind words!

#72 — FranzKappa · 2024-04-05

When the lockdowns started,i tried to order a marble index from the states,but they wouldn’t want to ship overseas and there went my last chance of getting one of them.It was a huge disappointment.

I hadn’t really an idea how that module worked or how to use it exactly,but i knew that it was an essential processing module for the things i want to do with video synthesis (and i was right)

Discovering veil here in the forum was a bit like finding some buried treasure.