Cadet & Castle module builders list and build requests

Category: Unknown · Tags: cadet, castle · Posts: 46

#1 — creatorlars · 2018-07-19

If you’re looking for someone who can build a Cadet or Castle module for you, reply to this thread or contact one of the individuals in the list below.

Here’s a list of electronics builders willing to build Cadet and Castle modules on commission. These fine folks are available to contact for building services if you are not an electronics hobbyist and want an assembled version of these DIY projects.

• @JunkRhythm Los Angeles, California, USA
• @sigdigits Southern California, USA
• @reverselandfill The Netherlands, EU

If you’re a builder, please reply to this thread and I’ll add you to the list.

#2 — creatorlars · 2018-07-19

#3 — JunkRhythm · 2018-07-19

I’m available for commission and will gladly build any of the Cadet or Castle series for those interested. Feel free to hit me up through a private message and we can arrange the details from there.

Assembly | DIY Background

My journey into DIY electronics started around 2004 and ramped up around 2008. Sometime in 2009 I started working for Toppobrillo Music Electronics and did a lot of assembly for the early production runs prior to everything moving into factory production. I continued with some of the final assembly and calibration up until around 2014. I’m very comfortable with DIY at this point and I strive for clean builds. I’m located in Los Angeles, CA.

#5 — sigdigits · 2018-07-19

Name’s Ryan… Nice to meetcha!

Happy to do commissions and builds for people who can’t/don’t want to DIY.

Have built many kits and modules, including 3 sets of Castle Modules for clients (and a few single modules), Cadet line, and several other kits including Paia 9000 series, Turing Machines, EM Klee sequencer (with offboard wiring). I have even etched my own PCB’s and completed working prototypes. Located in Southern CA and have quick turnaround times.

#6 — reverselandfill · 2018-08-02

Hi

I’m Martijn.

I’ve build a lot of Cadet modules (from pcb to custom format and eurorack)

and am willing to do builds for others!

I’m located in The Netherlands (EU)

#7 — brdaniell · 2018-08-07

Contact details, Ryan?

#8 — sigdigits · 2018-08-08

sigdigits@gmail.com is best. Apparently the forum links there, because that’s where I saw the message.

Cheers

#9 — cinema.av · 2018-08-29

I’d be down, as I’ve built the complete castle and cadet lines for myself and a few friends, all of which have worked and survived live use. Located in Dallas, Texas.

#10 — bohus · 2018-09-19

Hey there! I’m in Chicago and I’m looking for someone to build/mod whatever is necessary to get the 3Trins synth to play nice with LZX stuff. Does that sound like something you’re hip to doing?

Thanks!

#11 — joyfultalk · 2019-04-15

Hey there, I live in Nova Scotia and I’m inquiring about the cost of getting a few cadet module assembled. I have a lot of diy expeariance but not sure if I have the time to ensure I order all the correct components

Thanks

J

#12 — voidstar · 2019-04-17

@creatorlars I’m a builder and am happy to build stuff - add me to the list!

@joyfultalk I’ll PM you!

#13 — MoireMotion · 2019-05-01

Hey, i’m based in the UK and available for build commissions!

I have a degree in electronic engineering and have several cadet modules plus an 3trins which was built from kit.

Contact oli@videoillusions.net or on here!

#14 — VRIDD · 2019-07-29

I would also be happy to to some assembly work! It’s part of my job anyway

Can do THT and SMD, and can get PCBs manufactured as well.Located in Oslo, Norway. Contact post@gardgitlestad.com

#15 — warpigs666 · 2020-04-16

Hi. Is this thread still active? Or has there been an update anywhere? Hoping to speak with someone in the US

#16 — saiteron · 2020-07-13

hi there! i’m actually about to build a massive run of Cadets (10 of each) and will be making a post to that effect shortly. feel free to send a message if you’re still interested or send an e-mail to teleosmodular@gmail.com!

#17 — bentoncbainbridge · 2020-07-31

How doable is this take on a combo I/O module in 8 HP?

It combines a Cadet I, a pair of IIs, and the III. Well, actually it’s more like the Input Decoder from Visual Cortex, since it would accept YUV and spit out RGB…

The NTSC/PAL switch is moved to the back, perhaps as a jumper?

Anyone want to build this for me?! I’d want a few…

thanks, Benton

#18 — VisibleSignals · 2020-07-31

The encoder is a busy board - to fit in two it would have to be very deep, very multi-board or SMD-only module. You are aiming very high

Sure you don’t want to squeeze a couple of ramp outputs in there as well? LOL ;-p

#19 — bentoncbainbridge · 2020-08-01

I never liked shallow cases, I like 'em deep!

Yes, I was thinking that the other sync modules should be on the same board, but with more outputs!

I hear you on the depth of the boards… I’ll work on a concept sketch at 20 HP so the boards can be stacked parallel to the panel

In the meantime, what about combining the Syntonie YUV to RGB decoder on the same panel with just one Cadet II encoder?

#20 — VisibleSignals · 2020-08-01

That might just be possible, I think. It’s 13 through-hole ICs plus a whole lot of other components so it would be pretty busy, but wouldn’t it be just as easy to get the two separate modules in that case anyway?

Also there’s a lot of time, tinkering, money and knowledge that goes into designing, prototyping and releasing a video module, so I would like to see Bastian get plenty of sales of his VU003 to help with all that before his hard work gets swallowed up and incorporated into someone else’s module…

Also, I’ve just realised this is rather OT for this thread so it probably ought to be discussed elsewhere.

#21 — bentoncbainbridge · 2020-08-02

This is a build request… I’ve long wanted an I/O module that fills the void betwixt Cadet (extra ‘modular’, with so many 4HP required to make a basic input/output) and Visual Cortex (don’t need all the compositing modes).

However, I defer to the Community wishes—shall I start a new thread?

And, a question on the @syntonie VU003: does it require both the Cadet I and III to function?

#22 — creatorlars · 2020-08-02

The gen3 series includes a new core sync + single TBC core module, as well as separate YPbPr and CVBS encoder modules. Essentially we’re portioning out Chromagnon into discrete function blocks. So these will all be multi-format sync (HD/SD) compatible as well (saving the CVBS encoder of course.) It’s a return to basic lab blocks like Visionary series, with the more integrated workflows moving to dedicated instruments. So they’re all low HP, what-you-see-is-what-you-get, compact functions.

#23 — VisibleSignals · 2020-08-02

Fair point… I can see where you’re coming from. I was interpreting “build” as being just the physical activity (i.e. come here to find someone to solder together a Cadet/Castle board you bought from LZX) rather than the process of designing of a new circuit and doing a new board layout.

I think you’d definitely get interest in talking about future module designs in a new thread, and it might keep this one more tighter-focused to how it was originally used. But I’m not an admin so it’s not my place to enforce, only suggest!

Sorry for not explaining my thinking better in my previous post.

#24 — bentoncbainbridge · 2020-08-07

ok, so I’m changing my request to something a little more conventional…

I’m seeking a build of a Cadet I, the Syntonie YUV-to-RGB module, a Cadet IV, and two Cadet IIs, all on one panel. https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/1287594

In other words, instead of five 4HP panels, I’d like them all to be on one 20HP panel. Lasercut wood is ideal.

If the YUV-to-RGB requires the Cadet III, then my build request is for a 20HP wood panel without the Cadet Ramps. https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/1287596

anyone up for this? thanks!

#25 — VisibleSignals · 2020-08-08

I like your thinking - that would be a nifty base kit for external video processing/colourisation! Since you have the VU003, you don’t need the Cadet III.

But you do want to make sure that the YUV video source is in sync (“genlocked”) with the input signal you use to clock the Cadet I sync generator/extractor. Otherwise the YUV source image won’t line up correctly with the output from the Cadet II encoders. I think you should be able to use the Y channel from the YUV video (which includes the necessary sync pulses) as the input to the Cadet I to achieve this. The Cadet I has a video out that is a copy of the video in, so I think this should work (sorry it’s a terrible picture but hopefully you get the idea):

#26 — bentoncbainbridge · 2020-08-08

thanks, @VisibleSignals

is there any reason not to leave the extra jacks off the combo panel? In other words, why not just have the Y jack feed the sync gen genlock and the transcoder circuits?

also… what’s with all those NTSC/PAL switches? why not just stick a single NTSC / PAL switch on the back of the module?

personally, I maybe switch my synths between PAL and NTSC once a decade…

#27 — VisibleSignals · 2020-08-08

If you connect the same socket to both the Cadet I and the VU003 inputs then they won’t get the full signal each, so it’s best not to do that. But you could definitely hard-wire the video out on the Cadet I (which is a buffered copy of the video in) into the Y input of the VU003, and that would be just fine and avoid having to use that extra RCA-to-RCA cable every time.

The switches are there for when you need them

You could leave them off if you want - maybe replace them with jumpers, especially if you get a custom panel made up.

#28 — bentoncbainbridge · 2020-08-08

@VisibleSignals, is there a use case for running the Sync Gen in NTSC and the Encoders in PAL? why not just one sync switch for the whole combo module?

#29 — VisibleSignals · 2020-08-09

That won’t work (or at least I can’t think that it would do anything that would be even remotely useful). They both need to be set the same.

#30 — bentoncbainbridge · 2020-08-09

What is the function of the NTSC/PAL switches on the encoder modules? Don’t they take whatever sync is coming from the Cadet I via the ribbon cable?

#31 — pbalj · 2020-08-09

The switch toggles between two crystals for the colour burst timings of ntsc/pal.

#32 — bentoncbainbridge · 2020-08-10

thanks @pbalj. ok, so for a combined panel I’ll just have one switch throw all the syncs at once.

#33 — reverselandfill · 2020-08-10

I’d say: a header on the back to switch between PAL and NTSC.

you are not going change the setting this often. (I guess)

saves space on the panel

#34 — reverselandfill · 2020-08-11

I might be up for building this. I have to think about it a bit.

Currently I’m building the Syntonie YUV-to-RGB module. When it is done I can test your preferred setup.

#35 — bentoncbainbridge · 2020-08-11

Fantastic, Martijn!

I’m open to revisions if needed/optimal.

My primary goal is to have an all-in-one sync/encoder module on a single plain metal or wood panel. My secondary goal is to have multiple encoder outputs. My tertiary goal is to include the YUV decoder.

My final wish is to minimize redundancy on the switches and jacks as much as possible.

I’d want at least two made.

Thanks, Benton

#36 — VisibleSignals · 2020-09-06

By the way, I’ve got a VU003 now and the wiring diagram that I posted above works the way it should. It’s great having a full colour input into a DIY video modular system!

#37 — jsonpayload · 2021-01-22

Anyone build the Cadet VCO or Cadet Sync Gen?

#38 — Psychoflauge · 2021-01-26

I got cadet 1 id sell you

#39 — jsonpayload · 2021-01-26

is it a Cadet VCO or Cadet sync gen?

#40 — Robbertunist · 2021-01-26

Cadet 1 is the Sync Generator. C9 is the VCO.

#41 — Psychoflauge · 2021-01-26

Its cadet 1 which is the sync generator. Ive got Cadets 1-4 which im selling atm

#42 — jsonpayload · 2021-02-20

How does the VU003 acquire sync?

#43 — reverselandfill · 2021-02-20

from any sync generator, for example the Cadet 1

#44 — sean · 2021-02-20

My understanding is that VU003 itself runs un-synced.

So you either have to sync your system to the incoming signal (hence Aladan’s routing diagram above) or sync the input externally to the system (like genlocking a camera).

#45 — reverselandfill · 2021-02-21

no, look at Bastiens demo video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an2DNtiHLgUand from the manual:

The basic setup requires a sync extractor/generator (LZX Cadet I) and a RGB encoder

(LZX Cadet II).

Y is sent to the sync generator first, then sent to VU003, so the system is synced to the

external video.

#46 — VisibleSignals · 2021-02-21

I think you’re both right, but just a little misunderstanding. I’ll try describing this in the most non-technical way I can, maybe that will help.

VU003 converts component video into LZX RGB signals. It doesn’t care about sync, it just converts the signal colour brightnesses that are happening at any given point in time on the screen.

To generate a composite output there needs to be a sync (which tells the screen when to start drawing at the top and at the start of each line). For the component video input via VU003 to line up correctly when it’s converted into a composite output, it needs to have the same sync (start of screen/line) as the composite output encoder is using. The easy way to do this is to have the encoder use a sync signal that has been extracted from the Y component input.

That’s why my diagram takes the Y component input (which has the sync signal on it as well as the brightness of the picture) into the Cadet 1 (sync extractor) first, before taking a copy of the same thing into the VU003 converter.

Sean’s other suggestion (genlock the component input to whatever sync clock the encoder is using) will work just fine too. I’ve done this before, many times, using external Extron/Kramer/etc video scalers.

I hope this helps!

#47 — saiteron · 2021-03-22

hey all - i have some built Castles now available and will be building more in the future. here’s the thread with pricing and everything:

>>>> ORDERIN’ TIME! > >>>> > woo hoo! after many delays and a whole lot of soldering i’ve got the first batch of these mostly built, so… orders are now open! i’ve got a few pre-orders to fill over the coming days but not enough to leave any of the Castles out of stock so if you want a Castle (or two or eight) you can place an order via e-mail at > teleosmodular@gmail.com> or via PM here on the LZX forums. > there’s a few pricing tiers: >> standard pricing for up to three modules purchased t…>

if you’re interested send a PM or e-mail me to place an order!